Goku started smiling and placed a hand on his left shoulder. Right? There are two separate dubs of the original anime, plus a reboot loyal to the manga, called Dragon Ball Z Kai. You guys are going to have to let that one go. If Gohan wasn't being cocky as usual could he have beaten super buu ? He finally gets closure and dies. In the Super manga, Toyotaro, for whatever reason, writes that Gohan is able to beat Kefla one on one. While dramatic, this meant that a few of them got beaten up more than they otherwise should have. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. Although he was able to dispatch them with ease, Gohan seemed to take his sweet time in saving his friends. Re: If Gohan kept up with his training could he have beat Buu? The original Funimation dub stated that Kid Buu was stronger than Super Buu, but that was only a line in the dub. As much as I love the kid buu saga, I think gohan finding a way to beat buu would have been a better ending for the buu saga. Goku and Gohan saying goodbye in Other World was a touching moment ruined by what followed. it would have been cool if gohan did do it with some new technique that the old kai gave him when he done the power-up, something like a cross between his masenko and the kamehameha, or just his masenko by itself. It is here where Goku unveils his new Super Saiyan 3 … You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. However, unlike his father, Gohan dislikes fighting and harming others, and his true power only shows through during moments of intense rage. The dude that literally sat on his ass the whole time had his beat down coming. In fact, it's so overwhelming you could accidentally kill someone with a tap. Now that I agree with. In the lead-up to the Buu Saga, Goku entered a martial arts tournament on Otherworld and met fighters from other quadrants of his universe. What I did mind is them completely trashing gohan. it would have been a fitting end to the series, with Gohan taking his father's place. This wasn't the dumbest decision he made during this battle, however, as his greatest failure would follow shortly after this. Goku and Vegeta spent their time getting stronger, even Mr. Satan stayed in shape over the 7 years. While fighting Super Buu as Gotenks, spam the Galatic Donut attack on Super Buu and root him in place. Yes he could have. "Thanks dad." It was a good way to end it with a nice spirit bomb. Decides if he merely found some weird way to do it it would probally just have been a kamehameha wave or something. Gohan deserved to get absorbed so that Vegito can kick Gohan Buus ass. All I'll say is that it should have ended before Boo's absorption technique was introduced. Ending the series here, due to epicness, would have been perfect. Gohan is more scarred than he appears in the Anime, both mentally and physically. If it needed to be Gohan AND Gotenks vs. Super Boo to make that happen, I would prefer that. In this form, Gohan is able to dominate Super Buu in a fight, something which even Super Saiyan 3 Goku was unable to do, but he lets the same weakness take hold … He should have beaten Goku properly, realising it's no longer what he wanted before sacrifing himself. I hate it when he wears his dad's ki or Piccolo's. When Ultimate Gohan showed up, he looked so awesome, and his entrance was just perfect. 'That's cause he mass debates so much. At the end of Z Gohan should be 26/27. Following Goku's death, he was trained by Piccoloin anticipation of the upcoming Saiyan invasion, and g… Goku said that there was a guy called Cell a few years back and that Dabura is about the same strength as him. Next: Dragon Ball Z: 10 Facts You Didn’t Know About Super Saiyan 2 I would have liked a gohan ss3 fighting buu with the Z sword ( training in the kai world would be like training in the hyperbolic time chamber) ( would pay some homeage to trunks lol). The battle against Freezer also gets a notable mention as the potential ending of the series. He … During the Buu saga, he was already dead when he went to fight Buu. I like Buu saga Gohan's goofiness with the Great Saiyaman persona, plus it gave us his best and unique outfit. Pikkon was a character who encountered Goku during his time in Otherworld. I have faith that you can beat Buu." This would have allowed even fight, which in turn would have dragged out the fight and would have still given Gotenks the false illusion that he could he win. And GT's ending was also leaps and bounds superior to Z's ending, but was sadly non-canon. ... Gohan was powerless to stop him and even Vegeta failed to defeat him after sacrificing himself. And yes, he should have killed Frieza too. All in all I don't like what they did with that whole Fusion saga, it really seemed like one big cluster **** of Buu fights. it was meant to end with gohan beating buu but goku fanboys wanted him to be the hero again, gohan is still the strongest so goku fanboys can suck on that. A badly beaten Goku was left as little more than a spectator while Yajirobe cut off Vegeta’s tail, and Gohan and Krillin engaged a severely weakened Vegeta in battle. Ultimate Gohan is a transformation achieved by Son Gohan after Elder Kaiōshin unlocked his potential. The series should have ended with Ultimate Gohan vs Buu. At the same time, he has his mother's light peach complexion rather. "This is going to be the last time I get to see you, until you make your journey into this world. Chapter 10 - Fusion Saga (Boss: Super Buu 1,2,3, Super Buu Thoughts - Gotenks, Gohan, Piccolo) Chapter 11 - Kid Buu Saga (Boss: Kid Buu) ... (this is the lowest you should have… There are two separate dubs of the original anime, plus a reboot loyal to the manga, called Dragon Ball Z Kai. While Gohan tries to stand his ground against Frieza, he's defeated in one punch and nearly dies. There's no way Gohan should have been able to get back up and stand after that. Lettuce be real tea, Gohan becomes the strongest unfused character in the series after Old Kai releases his hidden potential. The conflict ended with them allowing Vegeta to escape. (I think that means that he's referring to the strongest version of Cell, Super Perfect Cell, because Goku tends to refer back to his enemies as their strongest or last seen form). Gohan had Cell, Garlic jr and ton's of random henchmen over the years he had a good life and is argueablly the strongest characters at the end of the show. Although originally introduced as a mild-mannered and easily scared child, Gohan harbors an immense, limitless potential that surpasses that of his father. Gohan takes after his father mostly in appearance, including Goku's facial features, black eyes and even his spiky hair. Show him what a Saiyan is made of." Well going by that logic, Vegeta had his "character derailment" when he knocked up bulma, and started to care for his family. While often overshadowed by big guns Goku and Vegeta, Gohan has seen his fair share of intense battles over the years. Gohan Cell Saga – Gohan vs Cell Fight Dragon Ball Z. It should have … 悟ご飯はんのミラクルパワー, Bū o Attō!! Despite appearing to be in his normal state, Gohan, in actuality, is using the power of Super Saiyan 2 without the burden the latter transformation places on his body. In all seriousness, the best potential place Dragon Ball should have ended at was at the 23rd Budokai. So no, he shouldn't have won Gohan deserved to get destroyed and beaten. He was a ***** against gotenks buu and even ss3 goku was fairing up better. Hard pick between Buu saga and Future Gohan. So you're saying it should have ended with GT. Buu could simply have suppressed his Pl to a level where Gotenks could at least keep up with him but big enough that he could control the fight. He realised that a long time before he died, and in fact, this is partially why he decided to rely on Gohan to defeat Cell. should have been gohan v kid buu Dragon Ball / DBZ / GT Anime/Manga Chat 0. Every major fighter becoming insanely powerful, Son Kakarot surpassing God, himself, by a large margin, defeating The Devil, and getting offered God's job, and then turning it down. Gohan no Mirakuru Pawā, lit. So if Gohan was the one constantly beating 73...? Remember that Kefla is a Potara fusion of one universe's legendary Super Saiyan and another Super Saiyan, creating a being that could control her overwhelming power. Goku is still dead, but not for the lame reason given in the Anime. This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Make me proud, son. The original plot is that Goku is at his limit and Gohan has a form beyond anyone else due to his potential. I really like how they did the whole Goku and Vegeta finishing off the story fighting together and Vegeta admitting "Kakarrot is number one." SSJ3 Goku Vs Mystic Gohan version... 2.5! 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Son Gohan is the eldest son of Son Goku and Chi-Chi, and one of the primary heroes of the second half of Dragon Ball. I mean making him look weaker than goku as much as possible even when he was stronger. Gohan was nearly beaten to death after taking senzu beans he became a lot stronger than before. "A Whole New Gohan" (ブウを圧あっ倒とう!! Vegeta should have stayed dead after his sacrifice. Before that you pretty much get beaten over the idea with the idea that Gohan is the last hope and the strongest in the … This attack of Gotenks can be used to beat Suoer Buu. Son Gohan is the eldest son of Son Goku and Chi-Chi, and one of the primary heroes of the second half of Dragon Ball. It's a shame a hero has to be treated as such a weakling, but avid fans can count the times Krillin has won a fight on one hand. Goku was beaten by Great Ape Vegeta, forcing the remaining Z-Warriors to finish the fight in his place. Thats why i love the cell saga cause gohan saves the day. He could have watched the later fights through a crystal ball. Also against dabura... they shouldnt have made him a weakling and a wimp personality wise lol. Gohan needed his father's help for that battle and nearly died from not having it. Everything was perfectly set up, but then they had to ruin it. Other times, however, the half-Saiyan's performance has been less than stellar, either losing in a humiliating fashion or not quite having the juice to pull off the W. In essence, goku should end it but gohan should not be made to look completely weak especially when he was such a badass as a kid. Dragonball Z is an anime about the Saiyan, Goku, and his allies, the Z Fighters, including his son, Gohan, who battle to defend Earth from villains, some of whom seek the Dragonballs to wish for immortality. 550 Anime Fans. Alot of people like Gohan. As epic as the final battle was, if Goku had lost there would be little negative impact. And then 10 years later gohan doesnt fight in the tournament and wears glasses??? (REMASTERED) Rewritten story-line of DBZ post-Cell. And yes, I know one could argue that about me too, except that more people are on my side. Hell, Goku is still in his 40s I think if you ignore all of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber training. Idk goku had been the hero several times. He achieved the form of Super … you act like your personal opinion is better than the entire planet's. I like Future Gohan because of his tragic upbringing in contrast to the present timeline (which still was chaotic in some ways). He was a part of Dragon Ball Z’s filler material. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); I kinda agree with you since in essence Dragon Ball Z was the story of Gohan's life and how he evolved as a warrior. Maybe Toriyama would have stayed around longer if people weren't pushing him to change the ending. Although originally introduced as a mild-mannered and easily scared child, Gohan harbors an immense, limitless potential that surpasses that of his father. Then, Goku attempts to fight Buu in order to buy some time for Trunks to find the Dragon Radar. Gohan could have stepped in and defeated Kid Buu as effortlessly as he did Super Buu (who is also stronger than Kid Buu). ! Dragon Ball Z 4K UHD 60Fps This video is not my property, it is just entertainment, All Rights Reserved for Toei Animation and Akira Toriyama. Goku Said That He Could Have Beaten Majin Buu if He Tried. Some of the stuff you said isn't quite true (I haven't gotten that far in the anime yet, but I own the manga). After Gohan's cocky ass got Goku killed during the Cell Games there's no way Gohan should have been giving the victory over Buu. Cell saga was the best one for Gohan, he progressed better than ever. Ultimate Gohan doning Goku's outfit is also a badass look. Yes Gohan was a great worrier but you need to give Goku his due. He should have beaten Goku properly, realising it's no longer what he wanted before sacrifing himself. This idea would only fit if the fight wasn't a godstomp, TC. The truth is that while it’s not outright stated, Kid Buu is the second weakest form of Majin Buu. Join Community. Gohan is the protagonist of the Buu saga pretty much until the moment he is absorbed, Toriyama changed his mind really late in the game. Goku should have died on Namek and never came back. or if to have just Vegito appear have Ultimate Gohan beat Kid Buu on Supreme Kai's planet. Had Goku realized this and taken the threat of Buu more seriously from the start, he could have transformed into Super Saiyan 3, defeated Vegeta quickly -- pride be damned -- then rushed over to help Gohan. He finally gets closure and dies. Dabura was never said to be as strong as Perfect Cell before self-desctructing. He and the others only got stronger later because AT was talked into extending the manga with the Buu arc. Focused mainly on Gohan, who I felt was not done any justice during the Saiyaman/Buu Saga. Gohan is a terrible character. I felt like he was his own person then. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. 28 days ago 2 days ago. Vegeta should have stayed dead after his sacrifice. Some of these battles have resulted in epic wins, proving himself to be a true force of nature. If that wasn't bad enough, in Super, Frieza constantly blasts him like with Piccolo. Although originally introduced as a mild-mannered and easily scared child, Gohan harbors an immense, limitless potential that surpasses that of his father. Gohan's Miracle Power") is the tenth episode of the Fusion Saga and the two hundred sixty-third overall episode in the original dubbed and uncut Dragon Ball Z series. COME ON!!! He thought Gohan could replace him as the defender of the Earth. Not much left in the tank.'. This episode first aired in Japan on May 3, 1995. In my opinion i think vegeta should've beaten kid buu. Yes, it was due to the tournament format, Gohan falling out of the ring due to Krillin's new technique, Solar Flare x1000, but it's still Krillin. Fusion. Hence, him not getting beaten black and blue. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Son Gohan is the eldest son of Son Goku and Chi-Chi, and one of the primary heroes of the second half of Dragon Ball. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. dude, if the fans like something, then that's what's deemed good. It was removed and regrew a few times during his childhood until removed permanently by Vegeta in their first battle.When first introduce… You know i dont really mind goku ending it. - Page 3. But I felt it would be not as epic. Maybe if Gohan didn't go ultimate then maybe I'll enjoy that.Nah lolnope, http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...cterDerailment. To answer the OP, early Buu saga Gohan. "Boo is Overwhelmed!! Goku should have recruited Pikkon for Dragon Ball Super’s Tournament of Power. Janemba also has much better reality warping feats than Buu could hope to imagine. I would have liked a gohan ss3 fighting buu with the Z sword ( training in the kai world would be like training in the hyperbolic time chamber) ( would pay some homeage to trunks lol). Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. Vegeta states that "Gohan was stronger than this whe… Gohan is a terrible character. And the version of Goku who fought Hirudegarn was the strongest he could have been before GT. But no taking part. Genki-Dama at this point is obsolete. Now the Super Ghost Kamikaze attack will give lethal damage to him. To beat the Super Buu, the Z warriors have to merge in order to increase their battle power. Also taking after his father, Gohan inherited a Saiyan tail, with was long and prehensile with brown fur. If you didn't have him finish buu then he would only have killed one villian in the entire show and that was a henchmen. He was wearing the outfit, and he had the power and confidence that Goku always had. When the bump is going anywhere, t'was a good post. Dragonball Z is an anime about the Saiyan, Goku, and his allies, the Z Fighters, including his son, Gohan, who battle to defend Earth from villains, some of whom seek the Dragonballs to wish for immortality. Would've been nice having another hero of the day besides goku. "Adult" Gohan in the Buu saga was only 16/17 and the Buu saga lasts a few days. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=412402383 Fix yourself Gohan. It's called character development, and character closure. Honestly mid way through the Buu Saga with Ultimate Gohan beating Buutenks. Even Mystic Gohan, should have got angry or something. 3) I kinda doubt it. So no, he shouldn't have won, Gotenks is too childish and wacky to have the epic final battle of an entire series. Since his sacrifice, his spirit to fight kid buu knowing he didn't have a chance to win in super saiyan level. 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