This thread is archived. Venage237's wall > Ever intend to finish up Link vs Simon Belmont? Each of them has access to his signature items (for Raistlin, this means: The Staff of Magius, the Dragon Orb and the Dagger of Magius), but nothing else. Sidekick: The Chosen of Mystra, a.k.a. In the following years, Mystra has returned to life for a second time, restoring Elminster’s full powers. BOBBY: My name is Robert De Loungville. Each character is at the height of their power. There any doubt? A natural storyteller, Elminster is normally a witty, clever, and very charming man. Izrador vs Gandalf? 6 comments. Fascinated with the manifestation, Gandalf reaches down to touch the surface of the pool. And this picture alone is legitimate proof that Elminster is indeed Gandalf's Ultimate Imitator, something more people need to come to realize. … Goose and Lord of Legend. Despite Elthryn’s desire to remain uninvolved, he and his wife Amrythale were slain by the evil mage lord, Undarl. 317 Votes. For nearly a hundred years, Elminster lived like this, growing bitter. Elminster vs Rincewind (Score: 4, Insightful) by javajawa ( 126489 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @02:54PM ( #11151043 ) Homepage I think it is a tossup between Elminster … He rarely reveals the full extent of his true nature to anyone who is not an extremely close friend. May 6, 2010 #3 Karsa Orlong may well be the biggest fantasy badass ever. For at lease one simple reason - Dumbledore, powerful as he was, still share the same weakness literally ALL Harry Potter universe characters have: They relies on their wands too much - even Voldemort. D. dead First Post. Created by author and Forgotten Realms designer Ed Greenwood, Elminster was introduced in 1985. Impressed by Elminster, she asked him to be one of her Chosen -- an immortal being imbued with incredible power over the Weave. Submit Templates; Contact Us; FAQ; Legal & Policies Pug vs Harry Potter Merlin vs Kvothe Fizban vs Mazrim Taim Macros vs Gandolf Feel free to describe how the battle would take place. I think it is a tossup between Elminster the archmage, and rincewind. Forgotten Realms is a campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game. Mystra explained that she was the living embodiment of the Weave, and she wished him to learn from her so he may protect it. Site Rules & Help : RPG Crossing > Discussions ... And in keeping with the mage vs. mage theme, Raistlin vs. Elminster and a few Black Mage fights. Pug vs Harry Potter Merlin vs Kvothe Fizban vs Mazrim Taim Macros vs Gandolf Feel free to describe how the battle would take place. Several years later, Greenwood brought the setting to publication for the D&D game as a series of magazine articles, and … Gandalf the Grey, as he is known through most of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings trilogy, is the epitome of a wizened old wizard – possibly owing to Merlin’s influence and possibly influencing Elminster’s appearance as well. Nobody knows what he's capable of except in a few brief moments when he starts casting his crazy spells to jam doorways, set the forest ablaze with eldritch fire, duel the balrog, etc. Belit vs Red Sonja (Oh, my)? Nov 23, 2014. Elminster’s soul was preserved, but it took Simbul sacrificing her life and the last of her energy to restore Elminster’s physical form. But not so prophetic that he could see that teaching a cute young thing all of his magic would lead to his death. Over 1,200 years old as of Fifth Edition, Elminster has experienced his share of victories and tragedies across more lifetimes than most beings could understand. THE SCENARIO . OptimusPrime - Member. Elminster 204 Votes. More importantly, they should do some Forgotten Realms movies one day. He set up shop in some small town to 'plug the cork' vs a Dark Threat To All The Realms. Strictly by your votes. I'm curious how Voldemort would hold up against Gandalf or other very powerful wizards of other series. 29, 2009 Being one of the wisest of the Maiar, Gandalf originally started life as a Maia of Irmo the Dream-Master in addition to Nienna the Weeper, Manwe the Wind-King and Vara the Star-Queen. - Winston S. Churchill 07-02-2004, 02:06 PM #8: Cerek the Barbaric. 67% Upvoted. Artist-Azar. Reply. It’s really a tough question since there are so many “versions” of them. May 6, 2010 #2 Yyrkoon would be near the top I think. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. W. Wolfwood2 Registered User. Puffs of smoke rings chased one another above his head forming a chain before dissipating. Name: Elminster Favorite Spell: Seduce Mystra Arch-Enemy: I'm too powerful to have enemies. Any of the three could win on any given day. On the understanding of hard vs soft magic, it depends. Okay, it's the battle you all waited for: Elminster of Shadowdale vs Raistlin Majere.We use the D20/D&D 3E versions of them. He was created by Ilúvatar before the Music of the Ainur, and was at the beginning of Time amongst the Ainur who entered into Eä. The Sidekick UA Spellcaster is somebody that studied under Gandalf/Elminster/Insert whatever higher tier variant which would be represented by its ability to reach up to 9th level spells. OptimusPrime Member; 4273 posts; Share; Posted March 9, 2010. He still aged slowly, but could only cast the simplest of spells without going mad. Pick your winners! Gandalf wins, definitively! W. Wolfwood2 Registered User. Belit vs Red Sonja (Oh, my)? In looks, sure. They meet in a pocket plane. Unbeknown to Elminster, the magister was an agent of Mystra, and she wanted the young man to become a wizard. ... Elminster vs Rincewind (Score: 4, Insightful) by javajawa on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @02:54PM Homepage. IAmTheMeat. Besides, Gandalf and Elminster are kind of unreal characters - even the books dealing with them as up-and-coming mages are afterthoughts; Raistlin is the one that truly develops. share. Gandalf the Grey Gandalf the Grey . Gandalf from The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings vs Elminster from Dungeons & Dragon's Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (if Deadliest Warrior did this, it be live action no doubt). Serious. If you like our work, please support us. Elminster
RPG Crossing Home: Forums: Create An Account! Go. They are a fan-favorite class that allow players to enjoy the fantasy of being an all-knowing, fireball hurling, master of the arcane, but on … However, Elminster's background is significantly different from that of Gandalf. Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice . Merlin is a cambion, basically a demi-demon. 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Jim Butcher's wizards do magic by imagining a thing and making said thing real by pouring magic energy into it with their will. She taught him of the Weave, the invisible threads that make magic possible in the Forgotten Realms. Azzy Newtype. I'm going to start with a literary, rather than a fanboy ("Do you think the Thing could beat the Hulk?") Rand vs. Gandalf? Raistlin vs Gandalf General Discussion. He can be imperious, grave, and terrible, however, and furthermore is a consummate actor. Once in Hell, he was abducted and enslaved by an outcast archdevil known as Nergal, who wished to discover the secret of Mystra's silver fire. 3781. Gandalf vs Elminster Aumar as well as Albus Dumbledore vs Obi-Wan Kenobi. But having developed an intense hatred of magic as a result of his parent’s murder, he refused. Long time D&D fans may remember the Elminster series and what he was like as a wizard. Straight Dope Message Board > Main > Cafe Society > Voldemort vs Gandalf (or other wizards) PDA. the wizards scream in unison and unleash their magic against the other. It's a bit like comparing Gandalf with Dumbledore. Elminster Aumar. No way. He tried to survive as a bandit and cutthroat, but found himself disliking the notion of killing. Elminster VS Szass Tam This Rumble ended on 2003-01-25 00:00:00.0. Yoda vs. Gandalf vs. Dumbledore vs. Brom from eragon This topic is locked from further discussion. The Sidekick UA Spellcaster is somebody that studied under Gandalf/Elminster/Insert whatever higher tier variant which would be represented by its ability to reach up to 9th level spells. Joined Oct 1, 2010 Messages 1,611. R. Rallan My Hat Of d02. Elminster Aumar (Dungeons & Dragons) Hellboy; History . Raistlin Majere vs Elminster. 6 comments. Elminster has literally been to hell and back. For several ages now, two sages have graced the halls of the Inter-Dimensional Retirement Community located on the estates of the Khazan Wizards Guild. I imagine both are too clever to go all-out against each other directly, rather using minions/allies, etc. He set up shop in some small town to 'plug the cork' vs a Dark Threat To All The Realms. Forgotten Realms is a campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons (D&D) fantasy role-playing game.Commonly referred to by players and game designers alike as "The Realms", it was created by game designer Ed Greenwood around 1967 as a setting for his childhood stories. Each character is at the height of their power. You call me sir. He was associated with light and fire, much like his peer Varda. He fits the same mold as Dumbledore or Obi-Wan Kenobi -- burdened with wisdom and responsibility, yet charming, and possessing a surprisingly good sense of humor. To be honest, the two don't really compare, because although they're both D&D settings, they're both very different. Gandalf didnt make the horses appear from the river water. It was originally created by author and game designer Ed Greenwood as a setting for his own stories, but after he discovered D&D he adapted it to the game system. Copying the relevant mechanics of gate from the 3.5 SRD: "The second effect of the gate spell is to call an extraplanar creature to your aid (a calling effect). However, Elminster's background is significantly different from that of Gandalf. Battle for magical supremacy on modern day earth. Name Something you've created: The need for a library devoted to cataloguing all the things I've created. That's a rough breakdown of the advantages each mage has in the conflict. Elminster Aumar (born in 212 DR) is a fictional character in the Dungeons & Dragons-based Forgotten Realms setting. Though he was the rightful heir to the throne of Athalantar, he abdicated and placed a friend in his stead, having no taste for ruling. Donate. Gandalf's magic isn't even a close match to Rand channeling the OP. Darth_Tyrev. Gandalf leaned heavily on his staff staring into the magical reflecting pool. RELATED: Dungeons & Dragons Does Greek Mythology In Magic: The Gathering Theros Crossover. That was Aerowin, Steven Tyler's daughter. If I'm the only one who votes, then so be it! 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Quote; Link to post Share on other sites. P. PrinceYyrkoon Retired User. Next Last. Elminster settled in a land called the Dales, keeping his tower outside the town of Shadowdale. 4: One of Gandalf's most powerful foes he killed was The Belrog of Morgoth while one of Elminster's most powerful foes he fought and disposed of was The Avatar of Bane (Gandalf eventually finished off the Belrog of Morgoth by a series of lightning strikes while Elminster on the other hand disposed The Avatar of Bane as they did battle in his tower, as both were caught up in the spell that Elminster had … Nov 19, 2020 #20 Alternatively, we imagine the learned, book bound, intelligent mastermind who always has a spell to help or hinder in any situation. share. So prepare your forbidden books and steadily growing beards, magic fans, as we at Screen Rant ask Dumbledore Vs. Gandalf: Who's the Better Wizard? Second of all, Merlin hangs around dreamboats like Lancelot (purr!) He spent years serving as a priestess of Mystra, calling herself Elmara. I'd really like to be able to make an Elminster / Gandalf type of human Arch-Mage wielding a staff that's not a gimp, flavor build. "Doppelganger!" P. PrinceYyrkoon Retired User. Elminster escaped with his life, taking his grandfather’s broken sword as his only keepsake from home. Elminster, the Sage of Shadowdale, is a legendary figure in the lore of Dungeons & Dragons, and he's much more than a simple copy of Gandalf. In looks, sure. Post by Andragohn » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:34 pm. Gandalf is one of the main characters in The Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings respectfully. Reply. Mystra's Chosen > All. The best part of the 10th Anniversary of DDO...the description on the Oatmeal Raisin Kookie, "From a distance you thought this was a chocolate chip kookie. Lionelion Member since: Jun. Gandalf’s initial appearance is as a wizard, but later on Gandalf appears as the chief of the Istari order after Saruman’s fall. Artist-Azar. elminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,186. Originally called Olórin, he was accounted as the wisest of the Maiar (with the possible exception of Melian). KEEP READING: Baldur's Gate 3 Demo Teases a Triumphant Return, Ari David is pretty amazing. In the early hours of Hammer 1, 1372 DR, Elminster entered the portal and narrowly managed to close it, but at the expense of much of his magical strength. My bet is on Rand vs. Aslan...Savior vs. Savior...ha ha. Mar 29, 2015. 1 of 2 Go to page. Plotting and planning - playing a long, protracted, chess-like game against one another. Validated User. Jan 5, 2017. smallhorses. Pools of Darkness; Risen; Risen 2: Dark Waters; Secret of the Silver Blades; Space Siege; Star Wars: KotOR; Star Wars: KotOR II; System Shock 2; Temple of Elemental Evil She sent Halaster Blackcloack, the Mad Mage of Undermountain into the Nine Hells, but he was defeated. They are a fan-favorite class that allow players to enjoy the fantasy of being an all-knowing, fireball hurling, master of the arcane, but on Toril, the world of the popular Forgotten Realms setting, there is no wizard more legendary than Elminster Aumar, the Sage of Shadowdale. Bobby De Loungville versus Gareth Bryne. Intentionally drawing inspiration from mythical and literary figures like Odin, Merlin and Gandalf, Elminster is the Forgotten Realms’ gray-bearded, pointy hat wearing, pipe-smoking, immortal sage. Information. Solomon Kane vs Elminster? ... Elminster. If there is a wizard show down, it should be Ged vs. Gandalf vs. Polgara; one big three-way match ;) Elminster continues to be active in the 1490s, the era currently explored in D&D’s Fifth Edition, helping Toril recover from the ravages of the Spellplague and fending off the evil that would harm the world he calls home. Fascinated with the manifestation, Gandalf reaches down to touch the surface of the pool. ... Like Gandalf in LotR. Like Gandalf in LotR. His backstory and further adventures have been explored in a series of novels from creator Ed Greenwood, starting with Elminster: The Making of a Mage in 1994, and continuing to appear in 13 novels over the decades. Merlin vs. Gandalf This Fight Suggested By: Joao Camilo, The Big Bad W0lf Robin, RiggsAntor, Dr. Elminster 204 Votes. But every day I will advance one side. This Rumble ended on 2003-02-15 00:00:00.0. Mario and Sonic, Alien and Predator, Terminator and Robocop, Batman and Superman, Picard and Kirk, Elminster and Raistlin, Darth Vader and Seven of Nine, Gandalf and Merlin, Bahamut and Tiamat, Splinter and Shredder, Bond and Phelps, Trebek and Sajak, McGwire and Sosa, Shaq and Jordan, Kerrigan and Harding, Leno and Letterman, Cronkite and Brokaw, and Windows and Macintosh. Yet his ways often took him to Nienna, fro… save hide report.
Gandalf or Saruman are two examples that we often see within the game. Elminster, the Sage of Shadowdale, is a legendary figure in the lore of Dungeons & Dragons, and he's much more than a simple copy of Gandalf. And in keeping with the mage vs. mage theme, Raistlin vs. Elminster and a few Black Mage fights. It is even rumored he had a hand in the founding of the city of Waterdeep, or at the very least creating its hierarchy of lords. They are the famed wizards Merlin and Gandalf. He was tortured by devils and subjected to acts of utter brutality until Mystra was able to hear Elminster’s plight. Now, groups can certainly choose to play those exact characters if they want but that is generally not the case. Venage237's wall > Ever intend to finish up Link vs Simon Belmont? Ever intend to finish up Link vs Simon Belmont? Azzy Newtype. As Salvatore’s Drow elf Drizzt Do’Urden is the quintessential fighter of the Forgotten Realms, Elminster is the quintessential wizard of the realms. Be they Gandalf, Elminster, Skywalker, Valen, Superman etc etc etc. However, his body was destroyed by Manshoon, the leader of his old foes, the Zhentarim. Gandalf is an archangel, but that doesn't mean much. May 6, 2010 #2 Yyrkoon would be near the top I think. I think it was agreed upon in DnD revisions that the wish spell is causality manipulation ZacharyGrossman273 (talk) 22:10, October 30, 2018 (UTC) You can talk with some of the participants about it via their message walls. It was worse for Simbul who needed to feed off of magical items in order to stay sane. Reply. Eventually, he was rescued by a Chosen of Mystra named Simbul, and the two developed a relationship. We have got Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White for the Ainu Olórin both with and without Narya. He was taught many lessons, including Mystra turning him into a woman in order to gain a greater understanding of the world and a stronger connection to the Weave. The rich text editor does not work with JavaScript switched off. He was present when a potent magical ward called the mythal was raised, transforming the city of Cormanthor into the Elven stronghold of Myth Dranor. and Galahad (spank me! View Full Version : Voldemort vs Gandalf (or other wizards) Scuba_Ben. Reply. Solomon Kane vs Elminster? Okay, it's the battle you all waited for: Elminster of Shadowdale vs Raistlin Majere.We use the D20/D&D 3E versions of them. Gandalf the Grey is a wizard character from a fantasy novel Hobbit written in 1937 by J.R.R.Tolkein, an English professor of Oxford University. Mystra was eventually reincarnated through a wizard named Midnight, restoring Elminster's power. ), while Gandalf hangs around short guys with furry feet! Now Elminster again, he sought to return to his home to free it of the magelords. Yes. You could argue that this is soft magic (and in some ways it is), but it has hard rules and has to obey physics. Serious. He trained some of the great and famous wizards of yore - the Seven Sisters, the mad necromancer who founded The Cult of the Dragon, Khelben Blackstaff (well, maybe not him). Who would emerge the victor if these two legendary mages fought it out? Tomorrow will be the right side, etc. Mar 29, 2015. May 6, 2010 #3 chris777 Registered User. In a flash of brilliant light the phantasm of the mirror appears in front of him. January 2014 edited January 2014. 13 years ago. When Mystra was killed for trying to return to the heavens, it left Elminster powerless for a time. In his \"youth\", he became one of the Maiar who served Manwë, Varda, Irmo and Nienna named. Forgotten Realms is a campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game. This seems like such a traditional arch-type in D&D, that I'm surprised this hasn't already been done. Strictly by your votes. A one-stop shop for all things video games. Related: 10 Tricks That'll Help You Playing D&D For the First Time. 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