So he would still be 250x times a group of 4. 4. However, Hypothetical Vegetto Blue (Post Tournament of Power) likely beats Beerus. So with that the ones who surpassed Beerus: obviosuly Jiren/Broly, Vegito/Gogeta (if he appears in the movie), Zamasu, Goku, Cunber. I would think Super Vegito would be more than 10x stronger than SSJ3 Goku. (Why? And his fusion is supposed to last 30 minutes but as we have seen they are super saiyan 4 and that drastically cuts the time. Since this is all speculation anyway, I'm free to assume. ... SSJG is about 400x stronger than SSJ3 Goku. ssj4 gogeta uses a big bang kamehameha, sees that beerus is immune to his ki. Secondly, irrespective of whether Broly is stronger than Beerus, his power has been compared to … plus in the PQ Eternal Rivals, if you get the bonus, SSJ4 Gogeta appears before SSGSS in a progresion battle where Goku and Vegeta adopt strong and stronger forms until SSGSS. Which Super Saiyan Transformation Is Stronger? If we go by feats, Frost wins. 10 Things The Saiyan Can Do In Dragon Ball (That The God Of Destruction Can't) Beerus really showed Dragon Ball fans just how much stronger Goku needed to be. GT has nothing to do with anything, its not even canon. For the "canon" numbers, Syn Shenron is 4x as strong as SSJ4 Goku and Omega Shenron is 10x as strong as Syn. I think Jiren is stronger than ssb gogeta. I think ssj4 would destroy beerus whit very little effort. Super Saiyan 4 is a formed obtained from Oozaru. Gogeta Blue is definitely stronger. That's just what I think. I'm assuming Beerus is 100x stronger than SSJ3 Goku. No idea, hard to say. -The only thing they know about each other is that Beerus is a god of destruction, and that SSJ4 Gogeta is a fusion of 2 saiyans ; And that each might be stronger than anything they've faced before. SSJ4 Goku is 4000x stronger than SSJ3 Buu Saga Goku and got his ass kicked by Omega Shenron. Clearly SSJ4 Gogeta is well worth Beerus' acknowledgement. ", while Gogeta will say "Maybe I can win against Lord Beerus now." 39 comments. ... Beerus vs SSJ4 Gogeta (ビルズ駆逐艦の神 vs スーパーサイヤ人4ゴジータ) - Duration: 2:16. Plague Punches People in the Face. It all depends on how much stronger you think Beerus is than SSJ3 Goku was when they first fought. The battle between Broly and Gogeta marked how insanely powerful the fusion can be. BUT pretending the fusion has no limit who would win then? To put it in short, it's been proven SSGSSS or SSB Vegito is stronger by monstrous leagues. Frost is stronger then base god Goku and base god Goku is far stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta . SSj4 Gogeta pretty much has to be above Beerus' level, though, considering that the fusion dance is described as making someone "tens of times" stronger than their component parts. But if they did fuse who is to say ssj god goku couldn't last until they unfused considering god goku in gt would be way stronger than god goku in dbz Especially considering gogeta as fusion would run out of time first See where I'm going there's no facts noones knows its I don't want to hear non canon crap. When he fuses with vegeta, Gogeta is essentially a 100x goku ssj4. The reason why I say SSJ4 is stronger is by scaling with fusions. Bias against GT … Let's just take the Movie Beerus and not the Series Beerus. The reasons being, for one, Goku and Vegeta have gotten significantly stronger throughout the T.O.P, in comparison to the Future Trunks arc. A top evolution form of the saiyans. Either way. I vote for Gogeta. Not bad at all! SSJ3 Gogeta≈SSJ4 Goku Because Vegeta says that the only way to become stronger than Omega Shenron is too fuse and turn SSJ4 When fused with Goku, the two formed the composite warrior Gogeta who also appeared as a Super Saiyan 4 for the final battle against Omega Shenron. SSJ4 as a form is stronger, but SSB Goku is stronger than SSJ4 Goku. Fused at ssj4 gogeta would be stronger than ssj god. Who would win between SSJ4 Gogeta and Beerus. In Xenoverse, your character who was about as strong as SSG Goku in BoG was able to help SSJ4 Gogeta defeat villainous mode Omega Shernron, Oozaru Baby, and Super #17 at the same time. gogeta looks confused at the no effect his strongest attack does. So while it's not a concrete number, I think it be fair to say SSJ4 Gogeta is twice as strong as Omega which means he's 80x as strong as SSJ4 Vegeta at the very least. Or was it 4 pure hearted saiyans?? Unless SSj4 Goku and Vegeta, even when "beyond limits," only measure up as very small fractions on BoG's 15-point scale, there's no way for SSj4 Gogeta to be "tens of times" their strength and end up anything … EDIT: Not in the game but in general. 1/18/2019. (Stronger Than Beerus And Whis) - Duration: 8:45. For all extents and purposes, Super Saiyan 4 is an extension of Super Saiyan 3, albeit with a more animalistic appearance, since it harnesses the powers of the great golden ape into a humanoid form. SSG Goku is the combo power of 4 saiyans right?? Think about it,ssj3 vs beerus lets say hes 1% gt goku is 400x stronger so the ssj3 that fought baby is already 3x stronger then beerus. Posted by 2 years ago. One of tropes that exists throughout the Dragon Ball mythos, but originally introduced in Dragon Ball Z, is that two fighters can fuse together to form a new, hybrid individual with vastly augmented power and abilities. Casual. maybe Beer is would be somewhere around a fusion of ssj4 Gogeta and Omega Shenron Casual. MUI Goku is still above Blue Fusions. In Xenoverse, pairing Gogeta against Beerus will make Beerus say "Hohoho! when no one is looking. Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta, (spoilers) Read at your own risk. Cause they made him like million times stronger for whatever Reason? Is Goku Stronger Than Beerus? It all depends on how much stronger you think Beerus is than SSJ3 Goku was when they first fought. No it hasn't been proven Gogeta is stronger than Beerus. Beerus has brought about a new age for Dragon Ball.Not only is he responsible for the movie that officially continued a series that has been all but dormant for twenty years, but he also noteworthy for bringing back beloved characters, larger than life fights, and an excuse for adults put their hands together and shout "Kamehameha!" Gogeta 'stomped' a character who was maybe stronger than Beerus MUI Goku treated Jiren (Who is for sure stronger than Beerus) like he was nothing. Hmmm, this just reminds me of Frieza honestly. If anything I think SSJ4 Gogeta is maybe SSJ God Goku tier at most but that's just IMO. My vote would be for SSJ4 Gogeta This is true. And there wasn't any doubt Jiren was stronger than MZ in 110, or any doubt he's the strongest they had ever fought, but then Whis says "perhaps" he's stronger than GoD level. XD. If we go by powerscaling, SSJ4 Gogeta does. Mar 10, 2016 #11 If we go by feats, Frost wins. Now if we take that into consideration that would then Zamasu he went blow for blow with Vegito can be thought of to be stronger and with the final stages of UI, whether Sign or Mastered, Goku surpassed Beerus. Unfortunately we didn't get to see the extent of Gogetas power. He's definitely the strongest they have ever fought, but only perhaps stronger than GoD level. Base Z goku is weaker then Frieza confirmed by Beerus This concept is revisited in Dragon Ball Super and its official tie-in animated film, Broly. But it is pertinent to my answer. We were told that if Goku and Vegeta fought together at the level they're at now, they may be able to take Beerus. This gives a 4000x multiplier of ssj3. Who would win between SSJ4 Gogeta and Beerus. The only characters who have been proven to be stronger than Beerus are MUI Goku and Limit Breaker Jiren.. Firstly, I believe the only character in the series who has the closes idea of how strong Beerus really is would be Whis. Base Gogeta>=SSB Goku because base and ssj Gogeta kept up with SSJ Broly. Archived. SSJ4 Gogeta outclasses SSJ4 Vegeta by a ridiculous margin. For Dragon Ball: Xenoverse on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "So, Gogeta/Vegito is confirmed to be stronger than Beerus?" There's a clear distinction in the level of power that is portrayed there. Gogeta Blue could potentially defeat a full power Beerus. And thats just ssj4 goku. A common debate. *Spoilers Ahead* Arguably, yes. That's an amazing power! SSJ4 Goku is 1000x a super saiyan . Close. So who do you guys think would win here? Which are both timed . I believe I've read that SSJ4 is 10x stronger than SSJ3, but I've also read that it brings the Saiyan to his limits. They could be on par or even a little stronger than Super Vegito, but Goku made it seem like Beerus was even a league or two above Vegito. If we go by powerscaling, SSJ4 Gogeta does. That means no Bluff Kamehamehas from SSJ4 Gogeta nor a portion of own's power used by Beerus (AKA Full power used). And in the movie, Vegeta was the only one to actually land first hits on Beerus (wasn't fighting seriously) and at that point, he was stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Vegetto Blue from the Black Arc gets STOMPED badly by Beerus. - Page 6. Here are some things he can each do that Beerus can't. 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